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When I got Bill, I also got his two cats (littermates, about a year old). I've never been a cat person, but we seemed to reach a place of co-existence. When they had problems, I did research to figure out how to fix them. I don't think of them as my cats, but they made Bill happy so I did what I could to keep them healthy and content.

Now I am actively disliking them, due to their puking/shitting/underfoot issues, and we are getting to the point where I don't think Bill is liking them very much, either.

We just moved to partly freeze-dried raw food, which is freaking expensive, but it gives us a break from processing all the raw chicken. Bill is cleaning their two litterboxes daily in an attempt to deal with their aversion to used boxes. Denny's hips are weaker and she's been having issues with loose stools and losing her box training... she is shitting all over the house on any soft surface (mostly all the rugs but on occasion she hits furniture too). They eat too fast and puke their food immediately, so we are down to feeding them teeny meals many times a day. They have been to the vet several times and tested with no sign of any major health issues... and I am feeling distrustful of vets anyway, because of the years of steroids and medications and special (expensive) foods for the skin issues that were fixed instantly with the raw food diet, which the vet argued with even when we clearly had great results.

They used to spend most of their daytime naps on our bed, but you guessed it... another shitting "accident" on my duvet and down throw. They are now banned from the bedroom.

One keeps getting underfoot and tripping us (mostly me, because I am home the most, but he's gotten all of us at one time or another). It's caused me several near-falls, and one bad fall that caused me to break one of the kitchen chairs from my grandmother. I've already broken my arm from a fall, and I am constantly worried about another (especially when I'm home alone with Linc).

This morning, I came out to a puddle of puke on my office chair. It soaked in all night. I cleaned it as best as I could, and now the chair is out in the sun. That incident is what spurred this entry.

I know a lot of this is age-related. They are 14 years old, they're healthy and likely to be around for years longer. They are thankfully continent with their urine (we are renters... there is no way we could allow cat urine to wreck this house). But I am reaching the end of my rope with the shit and puke all over the place. There is no rug in the house they have not shat upon multiple times, but the "accidents" seem random. Denny's hips are weak, but she doesn't seem in pain... she's fine for jumping up for sunbeams and birdwatching. I know more catboxes would supposedly help the problem, especially if we had them upstairs, but truthfully there is NO place to put one on the upper floor of this tiny house. I don't want to confine them to the basement because they would concentrate their accidents on Cordell's things, as well as the fact that there are no windows for birdwatching/sunbeams down there.

They are indoor cats. The few times we tried the indoor-outdoor thing, there were Bad Consequences (Cil vanished for a month, and he also got repeated abscesses from fighting), and I also honestly believe letting domestic cats outdoors is a really bad idea, for the local wildlife and for the cats themselves. I feel VERY annoyed when other people's cats dig and shit in my plants, hunt birds from my bird feeder, kill baby rabbits and leave the remains scattered on my porch... I don't want to be that person. It's also no good for the cat... poison (and poisoned animals), cars, malicious kids, abscesses... and the accompanying vet bills. No thanks.

A year ago, I was agonizing over losing my dog slowly to his brain disease. When his body began to break down as well, signaled by the loss of his urinary continence, we took the terrible, merciful step of putting him to sleep. It was honestly one of the very worst things I've ever had to do, and to this day I still second-guess myself... did I rush it because of feeling inconvenienced by his accidents, or was it really the right time? Gah. I still feel sick whenever I remember that day.

But I have no such attachment to these cats, and we are putting up with worse messes. I will do my best to make sure they are not in pain, and that they are as healthy as possible, for Bill's sake. But it is me who is feeding them and tripping over them and cleaning up the shit and puke and hairballs when Bill isn't here. I know it is wrong to consider euthanasia for inconvenience, but I wish I was at least getting something from this relationship. Denny used to kill rats and mice, for which I was grateful, but they haven't killed anything in years. Bill and Cord and Clay all enjoy letting them sit on their laps and petting them, but I don't (oh, I forgot to mention... I have seemed to develop a contact allergy to them too. If I touch the cats and then touch my face, I have watery itchy eyes for a few hours afterwards).

And now Bill is making "jokes" about how easy it would be to wring their necks, etc. I've had to remind him a few times not to say things like that near Lincoln, but it's clear that he's getting sick of dealing with all the mess too. I used to do yoga on the rug downstairs, but there have been so many "accidents" on it that it just feels gross to even go near it. The thought of lying down on it, even with my yoga mat, is nauseating.

I know they can't help it. They are old and their bodies are changing. Hell, I even empathize. But how long do we have to put up with this? What is my responsibility as a pet owner to them? If we had an easy out... if someone offered to let them live in a barn somewhere, or some crazy cat lady wanted them... I know we would let them go in a blink.

Any brilliant insights or words of wisdom from you all?

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Date: 2012-03-09 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feckalyn.livejournal.com
I feel your pain. I had a cat that I never really liked (but felt obligated toward) who peed all over and had this weird sneezing issue where she would blow nasty green snot all over and it would dry on the walls.

She was around 10 and driving me insane. Every day the bath mat was covered in piss. And she puked too.

Anyway, long story short, I was able to find a veterinarian who did not have a moral objection to putting a young, otherwise healthy(ish) cat with a peeing problem, to sleep. I felt awful about it for awhile but realized it really was the right choice for everyone.

(And lest I get flamed here, I just spent nearly $700 at the ER vet last week for another of my cats and I would do it again because I love each and every one of my cats. But sometimes being pragmatic about a pet and their potential to cause damage to your home and wellbeing is the only valid choice.)

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Date: 2012-03-09 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paulaandandrew.livejournal.com
I would consider confining them to one room with a removable, cleanable rug. Preferably a room where you all go in regularly and give them attention.

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Date: 2012-03-09 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
Ugh. If people are going to domesticate animals, they need to take responsibility for having domesticated them. Don't fucking kill your pets when they stop suiting your needs. And don't bring this up to me in real time because I will end up yelling at you about Wiley.

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Date: 2012-03-09 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamagotcha.livejournal.com
Oh Julia... the incontinence was only one thing. He was in pain and taking pain meds constantly, he couldn't do the stairs (we had to help him up and down), he got really confused and scared at the dog park, he dug into the snow and wouldn't come out, he kept barking and "looking" for someone, something... and didn't know us. He had repeated attacks of vestibular disturbance (like being seasick on dry land) and couldn't eat, drink or walk... Clay was part of the decision, and I would NOT have done it without him being on board (and I think he may have thought I even dragged things on a little too long). There were no good answers... his poor doggy brain was going and his body was failing too.

Please believe me when I say I truly struggled over what to do with him. He had fallen several times; the next step would have been a broken back. And if you read what I said, you'll see I don't want to put the cats down. I want to find a way to share the space with them in a way that we can all be happy. I don't see euthanasia as an answer (unless we get into an untreatable pain situation like Wiley's), but I need help. That's why I'm posting here.

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Date: 2012-03-09 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
Mhm. And you just happened to reach this humane, merciful, selfless decision right before that road trip that made caring for him inconvenient. Really, you do not want to have this conversation with me. (Or with Cord.)

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Date: 2012-03-09 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamagotcha.livejournal.com
Caring for him was "inconvenient" for many months, for YEARS, before that, Julia. There were many days that I was ready to cancel the trip because I knew caring for him was more than Bill or Clay could easily deal with; both of them were planning to take turns coming home in the middle of the day to help him... Bill was even looking at rearranging his teaching schedule to be able to do it, and we had hired someone to come on the days neither could be here. He could not get in or out of a car on his own, and it took two adults to get him in, and he freaked out each time we did it; I could not bring him with me like I'd done for other trips. Bill and Clay had both made the commitment to be there for Wiley long before I made the decision to go on the road trip. I would not have planned the trip if I hadn't known he would have been cared for while I was gone.

Believe me, you cannot say anything to make me feel any worse than I already do about that day. But about this, you are WRONG. We did not make the choice to euthanize based on the timing of the trip. I had made and cancelled the euthanasia appointment several times over the last few months. We did it because we... Bill and Clay and me... all felt it was the right time for Wiley.

I believe we tried to include both you and Cordell in the decision-making process, and you both made it clear you did not want to be part of it. If you chose then not to participate, and left the matter in our hands, the please trust that we did our very best for him. It hardly seems fair that you did not help with the decision and then criticize us for it. That "Mhm" seems like a glib dismissal of all our agony and efforts, and to be honest, I resent it.

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Date: 2012-03-09 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedusor.livejournal.com
If you want to stage a pissing contest about who's feeling more resentful here, we can do that. It won't be productive in any way, but I've got enough resentment pent up about this that I am entirely willing to spend some emotional goodwill and do some damage to our relationship in order to show you up in the resentment department, and I bet my anger-based resentment will stomp the hell out of your guilt-based resentment in bare-hands combat. I'm not doing it in a public forum, though. Talk to me privately if you really want to have this blowout.

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Date: 2012-03-10 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corva.livejournal.com
Lady - do give me a call if you'd like. My number remains the same.

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Date: 2012-03-10 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lorraine-inwa.livejournal.com
You all have done what you could to give them a safe healthy existence but now you are all miserable. Enough already.

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Date: 2012-03-14 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tara bell smith (from livejournal.com)
Ugh, I feel for you and I wish I had an answer. I have been a cat person for my entire life, in fact a few years ago I would've said I would always have at least one cat. Then in the past few years something has changed and I don't really even understand what. I think it's partly because cats are a lovely low-maintenance companion but when they suddenly become high-maintenance, well... they are not really a good-enough companion to be worth the PITA stuff. Honestly If it weren't for our kids' attachment to our cats, I would seriously think about re-homing the cats, or at least the younger two. However they would come as a pair, one with a special diet/urinating/pooping/yakking issue so I don't think I could find him a home very easily. We do confine our cats to the basement laundry room every night, and sometimes for part or all of the day depending on if we'll be home and what's going on with the above-mentioned issue. It doesn't seem fair to them but I'm not sure what else to do. And they do live a very long time. *sigh*

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Date: 2012-03-17 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jillcook.livejournal.com
Hugs, Katje. I have never "owned" a cat so I don't have the brilliant insights or words of wisdom you've asked for... but I know that whatever decisions you make are based on careful consideration of *everyone's* needs (yeah, YOUR needs count too). Since it isn't my decision and I know how much thought you put into everything you do, I'm behind you and support you, whatever you and Bill settle on.

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